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Mrs_Sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-26 10:30
Subject: Are there any Lie to Me fans seeing this?
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I occasionally watch Lie to Me and at the moment, I really wish I could confer with the Lightman Group. I think y'all know I'm a huge crime buff. One of my favorite blogs is Women in Crime Ink, and yesterday I read an article by Dr. Lillian Glass entitled Body Language Does Not Lie in the Casey Anthony Trial. I went off in search of photos and found one I can't decipher. My first thought was "What a strange expression," and I haven't really gotten past that point. Will you tell me what you see?





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maddiec24
User: maddiec24
Date: 2011-01-26 16:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Cal Lightman would have a field day with this bitch! Are you very familiar with this case, and if so, what are your feelings? There's a lot of hate for her on my forum.
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-26 18:33 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
First, what is this forum of which you speak?

I'd say I'm fairly familiar with the case. I first learned about when I still watched Dr. Phil and there was a segment about the protesters in front of the Anthony household (this was before Caylee's body was found). I also know Dr. G did the autopsy and I believe that if she says it was murder, it was. I also saw some pictures (this was months ago, and I don't recall the circumstances, but I'm pretty sure this was on tv) where someone claimed Caylee was afraid of her mother. I went through the photos downloaded from Casey's phone yesterday (they're on the Orlando Sentinel's website (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/), but not all would load. I got to around #95 when the program sent me all the way back to #1. This happened twice, so I think the problem's on their end.) Anyway, I was surprised she had photos of her child on her phone. I did notice that Caylee did not look sad or worried in the ones I saw.

Do I think Casey killed her kid? Yep. Do I think the photos prove it? No, although they strongly indicate she was an immature mother and much more interested in her friends and in partying than staying home to rear her child.

The whole made up kidnapped by the babysitter thing was fascinating, as was the visit to the theme park with the investigators/journalists/whatever and then have it turn out she hadn't been an employee there for quite some time.

I also think she dated that one young man with an eye toward framing him for murder.

I feel bad for her parents but also feel frustrated with them for continuing to believe/defend their daughter. I think if I were them, I'd say "She's my kid and I have to stick with her, but she did wrong and she needs to pay the consequence."
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mbcrui
User: mbcrui
Date: 2011-01-26 20:18 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I see puzzlement and disbelief... (and I love that show :) As for having pictures of your kid on your cell phone... Kate has lots of picts of Jax on her phone... I don't, but then, my phone doesn't take pictures. I have them on my palm pilot.... :)
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:02 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm not getting puzzlement or disbelief. I keep seeing how far down the corners of her lips are and the wide-eyed looking up. It looks half-flirty to me but I can't figure out the month. One of the Paul Ekman's wizards I am not.

As for having pictures of your children on your phone/palm pilot, I think that's pretty normal (unless the device doesn't support pictures), but what surprised me was that Casey Anthony had some because she just didn't seem that interested in her child. If the order of pictures is indicative, the pictures were Caylee were much older than the newer ones (and there were far more of her (Casey) and her friends than there were of Caylee.
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maddiec24
User: maddiec24
Date: 2011-01-27 02:47 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
The forum, Findadeath, is here:

http://www.findadeath.com/forum/

The Caylee Anthony thread is here, and be forewarned, it's 141 pages/7006+ posts:

http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9592

I believe Casey is guilty as well.
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I browsed through the entries last night. Interesting reading; I'd forgotten about that heart sticker found with the body.
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:45 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Oh, before I forget, have you seen The Human Face? I spent so much time thinking about that picture of Casey that I ended up doing some research on the web and ended up ordering both The Human Face and the first season of Lie to Me (because I discovered that Paul Ekman's expertise is actually used in creating the stories and because I want to watch the special features.)
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I keep forgetting you live down there. I suppose it's the siberian, I keep thinking snow and cold weather when I see your name.

I saw one number yesterday for how much the state has to pay for her trial (defense and prosecution) and I was shocked at the amount. The only postitive spin I can put on it is to say is "it's less than the OJ trial."

I wish I could come up with a way to make ensuring justice more cost effective. I'd make a fortune! (And *still* save the taxpayers money!)
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WPAdmirer
User: wpadmirer
Date: 2011-01-26 23:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
That's smug. She somehow feels she's gotten something she wants there - some win of some sort. Her eyes are bright, her arms are crossed indicating she feels secure (not protectively brought to cover her, but set out like HA!) and she's working hard not to smile.
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:17 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Smug? That could be, although I'm still troubled by the frown. Vindictive, maybe, as I agree with the bright eyes and the crossed, non-defensive arms.
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WPAdmirer
User: wpadmirer
Date: 2011-01-27 17:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
It's not a frown, it's an attempt to cover the fact she wants to smile.
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Jen
User: greenlady2
Date: 2011-01-27 07:20 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Okay, I only have vague memories of this case. But I've now read a few webpages about it. Here are my impressions:

The child was adorable. How could anyone kill her? ANYONE. God!

How could the mother not have reported that baby missing? I know that reporting a child missing isn't proof that you are not the kidnapper/murderer, but not reporting her missing is just... inexplicable. If she'd been my baby, the moment I thought she'd gone missing people down in Florida would have heard my screams!

I can't think about this any longer, or I'll have nightmares tonight.
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Mrs_Sweetpeach
User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2011-01-27 16:22 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I don't even like children and I can't conceive of anyone wanting to kill her. And it's obvious her grandparents simply adored her; if Casey didn't want to be a mom, all she had to do was leave Caylee with them. I think that's what bothers me the most, the killing was absolutely senseless.

In reading the thread Maddie mentioned above, I saw someone write that "Zanny" (the name of the mythical babysitter/kidnapper) was slang for tranquilizers in his/her part of the world. I wonder if that's what happened (although the duct tape found with the body makes this questionable), that the mom wanted her child sound asleep so that she could leave her and go party, and when she got back she realized that she'd administered a fatal overdose.

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