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Date: 2010-01-05 12:09
Subject: Little bits of random
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Music:Tangerine Dream: Exit
Tags:crochet, movies, rl
Last night I began work on a ripple afghan. Although I remembered how to do a double crochet stitch, I suck at understanding crochet patterns. It took four tries to get the thing started, which is not a minor inconvenience when the thing begins with chain 178 and I don't detect the problem until the second row.

It probably didn't help that I'd been to the eye doctor earlier in the day and my pupils were still dilated. I have a new prescription and should have new lenses in a week and a half. This will be good as you know that big 'E' at the top of the eye chart? Well, that was the only letter I could make out with the old prescription.

While we were in Indiana for New Year's Eve, jebra and I watched Trapeze with our nephew Collin. Good gravy was Tony Curtis a tasty morsel in those days. As was Burt Lancaster. I've always liked Curtis, but Lancaster was a surprise. I looked him up on imdb and it seems the only other movie of his I've seen is Run Silent, Run Deep. And that was long enough ago that I don't remember anything about it other than the title.
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User: lolabobs
Date: 2010-01-05 20:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I've never been able to crochet - and apparantly, I knit 'wrong' as well, so was revealed during a discussion on circular needles at the weekend!
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User: mrs_sweetpeach
Date: 2010-01-06 15:10 (UTC)
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There is no such thing as knitting wrong. To quote from http://www.grumperina.com/comboknitbackground.htm :

People knit in all different ways. For starters, people carry yarns in different ways - the English style of knitting instructs the knitter to throw the yarn over the needle, while the Continental style knitter picks up the yarn using the knitting needle. Furthermore, the way the stitches are made differs from knitter to knitter, largely dependent on geographic location. Western knitting, which in the States is practiced almost exclusively, leaves each stitch untwisted. Eastern knitting, in contrast, twists every stitch. Combined knitting (also called Combination knitting) twists stitches in one row only to untwist them in the next. When applied appropriately, each method can produce the same fabric, so no one way is more correct than the other.

The psychology of this is not trivial. Beginner knitting books published in the States almost exclusively show Western knitting, and they place a heavier emphasis on holding the yarn in the English style. Understandably so: if the beginner knitter comes across a troublesome stitch, he or she can ask another knitter for help with the assumption that they knit in the same style. Basically, this is a way to enforce and propagate uniformity, simplifying life by most accounts. By the same token, those beginner knitters who have found it more comfortable to knit differently than in the Western style may go through "rejection and conversion" of sorts - more experienced knitters will say, "you're not understanding this pattern or this stitch because you're knitting wrong!" followed by conversion to knitting Western style. This has personally happened to me.

Eventually the beginner knitter understands what happened, that he or she wasn't knitting "wrong" before, just differently, and perhaps the stitches weren't coming out right because all books are written with the assumption of a Western knitting. This is followed by some anger specifically aimed at beginner books for showing only Western knitting, which is expressed through semi-angry webpages to publicize other ways of knitting :).

Annie Modesitt's contribution to this whole thing is to raise public awareness of different ways of knitting, forcing knitters to look at the finished product to determine whether it's "right" or "wrong" rather than the way the knitter chose to create it. Rather than rejection and conversion, Annie encourages acceptance and validation of different ways of knitting.

With Western knitting so abundant, why do some knitters choose Combined knitting? As far as I'm concerned, there are many benefits. The visually-noticeable benefit is that knits and purls created using the Combined style are more even (less rowing out). The physical benefit is less wrist strain. The psychological benefit is an intimate knowledge of stitches, where they come from and why, and how to manipulate them. The psychological benefit is knowing that although I am able to knit in the Western style, I choose to knit differently than most people, which makes me feel like I know something a little special.
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User: lolabobs
Date: 2010-01-10 16:23 (UTC)
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I didn't even know there were formally different types of knitting - I knew folks would all have slight variations, I didn't realise it was official!
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